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Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 Review

Dustin Abbott

August 28th, 2019

I recently completed a six-way comparison of all the currently available autofocusing lenses for Sony’s full frame mirrorless (FE) platform. These lenses cover a wide range of price points, from $379 (all prices USD) for the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8, to $598 (Sony 85mm F1.8), $699 (Samyang AF 85mm F1.4), $1199 (Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 and Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART FE), and, then at the top of the pile, is the Sony 85mm F1.4 GM (G Master) at a whopping $1798! The oldest and most respected of these is the Zeiss Batis 85 Sonnar mm F1.8 (hereafter referred to as the Batis 85), and it continues to be an excellent option…though the competition has gotten fierce.  

The Zeiss Batis series has been a serious treat for Sony FE shooters. The idea of having Zeiss optics in compact, weather sealed bodies with autofocus was one of the most compelling arguments for me to personally add Sony bodies to my own kit. I’ve spent time with all 5 of the current Batis lenses, including the 18mm, 25mm, 40mm, and 135mm lenses along with the 85mm more recently. I had saved the 85mm for my shootout so that I could review it in context of the current competition, as things have changed since the Batis 85mm was released in 2015.

Over the past year or so the 85mm focal length has gotten a lot of new options on the Sony platform (4 of them!), so the question has to be asked: “Is there still a place for the Batis 85mm in 2019? We’ll do our best to answer that question in this review.

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Batis 85mm Build, Design, and Handling

The best way to get the details of this lens is by checking out my hands on video below. It will take you up close the lens and demonstrate all of its features.

The Batis 85mm will have a fairly familiar appearance to anyone who has used other lenses in the series. It’s a handsome lens that has a familiar Zeiss look save the materials are engineered plastics (to keep the weight down) instead of the metal alloys common to many Zeiss lenses. The lens is moderately sized at 3.62” (92mm) in diameter and is also 3.62” (92mm) in length. The weight is a fairly light 15.9oz (452g). The filter thread is a common 67mm. It comes standard with a fairly substantial lens hood.

The 85mm and 135mm are the only two lenses in the Batis lineup with OIS (Optical Image Stabilization). This system is designed to work in harmony with Sony cameras with Steady Shot, and the end result is very stable. It’s a little hard to separate what part is due to the lens and which part comes from the camera body with my Sony bodies (which have Sony’s In Body Image Stabilization, or IBIS), but obviously that would be a different story if you happened to have a Sony camera without IBIS. Suffice to say that the resulting stability is excellent, though there’s a practical limit to handholding shots due to the fact that your subject might keep moving even if the camera’s movement is stabilized.

One hallmark of all the Batis lenses is the OLED display on the lens barrel that serves as a replacement for a typical distance window. There are no distance markings on the barrel, which is typical for mirrorless autofocusing lenses due to manual focus being “focus by wire”. All focus input on the manual focus ring is routed through the autofocus motor of the lens, and it is actually the focus motor, not the ring, that moves the elements. Because there is no mechanical connection to the lens elements, there is no fixed position for the focus ring, and thus no traditional focus distance information. Most mirrorless lenses force you to rely on focus information in the camera body, but, as mentioned, the Batis 85mm has an OLED screen that can display this information instead. When the camera is turned on the OLED will flash the word “Zeiss”, and then what information that is further displayed there will depend on what mode you put it. Out of the box it will mostly stay dark unless you are in manual focus mode, when it will display actual focus distance as a numerical value (in meters [up to two decimal points] or feet), which is very handy and arguably more useful than a traditional focus window.

The usefulness doesn’t end there, however. If you put the camera in MF mode and then turn the manual focus ring to the left past minimum focus 360 degrees you will enter into the control for the OLED. You have three options there: ON, MF (Default Position), and OFF. In the ON position it will show the focus distance even in AF mode. If you put the camera in MF mode and twist the focus ring to the right for a while it will allow you to switch the readout to measuring in feet rather than meters. You might argue that this is of minimal value, but when you consider that many mirrorless lenses lose any kind of distance window, I think that this is one of the beneficial hallmarks of the Batis line that remains fairly unique (I’ve seen a couple of Canon lenses with something similar).

The Batis series does employ weather sealing to help enable photographers to keep shooting when the weather turns a little inclement.

As noted, the Batis 85mm can focus down to 2.6” (80cm), which results in a 0.126x magnification, which is about average for an 85mm lens. The Batis 85mm employs “floating elements” to help allow for strong performance at close focus distances. 

The lens barrel has a black anodized satin finish that is very handsome. The small, tasteful Zeiss badges on either side are an elegant touch. The front façade of the Batis lenses look nice but not quite as attractive as the metal façade of the Loxia/Milvus/Otus/Classic lenses. The Batis lens seem to employ engineered plastics in the front faceplate.

The manual focus ring on the Batis lenses (including the Batis 85mm) has a smooth, rubberized texture with great grip and a moderate damping. It works well for manual focus, allowing for smooth, precise manual focus despite the “focus-by-wire” nature of the manual focus. Zeiss does a great job with maintaining quality manual focus despite the transition to focus by wire. It’s not as good as true manual focus on a classic Zeiss lens but the tradeoff is the instantly magnified image that allows you to quickly visually confirm focus.  One minor gripe about all of Zeiss’ rubberized focus rings is that they are lint magnets.

If you are familiar with the Batis lineup, then you know what to expect here. This is a nicely built lens that balances the considerations of build quality and weight/size effectively. The Batis 85mm was the second-lightest of all the 85mm Sony FE lenses I have reviewed (8 of them!!). There is nothing negative that I observed about the build, and, considering the sample copy I reviewed is probably about 4 years old, the lens has help up well (as you can see from the photos)

Batis 85mm Autofocus

The Batis 85mm has a very effective, quiet autofocus system utilizing linear motors. One of the best things about the Batis series is that they pair great Zeiss optics with solid autofocus performance. The AF is very quiet in either AF-S or AF-C modes. Speed in either mode is also excellent, as is autofocus accuracy.  I did extensive autofocus tests as a part of my shootout, which can be seen in this video episode:

When shooting high speed action, the Batis 85mm fell in the middle of the pack. It had few complete misses, but it had a number of shots where the focus was not perfectly nailed, with an ever-so-slight front or back focus.

The same was true with my Eye AF test, where out of the 10 portrait shots I did for the test I had two shots where the focus was close but not perfect.

Eye AF detection worked well, however, and did a great job tracking the eye in real time.

In my video AF test the Batis was the best of the bunch, with smooth, quiet, and confident focus transitions. There was essentially no pulsing or “settling” when focus arrived on the subject. The quality of the focus system was readily apparent, which was true in general. I was actually surprised when the Batis didn’t excel in some of my focus tests, as the quality of focus in every day use was probably tops in my tests.

While the Batis 85mm gets very high marks for its autofocus behavior during video, the focus-by-wire system is completely unsatisfactory for doing manual focus pulls using a gearing system. The problem is that the a focus-by-wire system does not produce repeatable results, so if you pull a focus lever to a specific point, it doesn’t always produce the same result depending on the speed you pull it. True accuracy with video manual focus requires repeatability. If you want a lens with precision manual control for video, the Zeiss Loxia series is a definitely a better choice. For autofocus during video, however, the Batis series is great.

In everyday use or during use during an event I shot with the Batis, the lens performed admirably. Images were generally well focused, and I was able to grab the quick, unexpected shots that arrive when shooting an event with good success due the fast, responsive focus system. The cheaper Sony FE 85mm F1.8 is also a strong performer (and even bested the Batis in some of my tests), but the Batis 85mm’s focus system felt a little more refined in general operation.  It’s worth noting that I really liked the look of images captured in an event setting (a summer camp) with the Batis, and felt like it delivered very reliable results for me.

After my formal focus tests during the 85mm Shootout, I concluded that the lens might benefit from a firmware update post Sony firmware 3.0 for the third generation a7 bodies. It feels like the focus system has “more in the tank”, and a firmware update at this point might improve on what is already a generally excellent focus result…particularly when tracking action.

It’s great to have an autofocusing Zeiss lens; it’s even better to have one with great autofocus.

Batis 85mm Image Quality

As odd as it may seem, this is a challenging area for the Batis 85mm. Not because of any shortcomings of the lens, but because the competitors are so strong…and frequently at a cheaper price. Does the Batis manage to justify it’s higher price tag in optical performance? Let’s jump in and find out. If you want to see how it ranks compared to the other 5 competitors in the shooutout, watch these video episodes:

The Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 employs a classic Sonnar optical design with 11 elements in 8 groups, which includes three anomalous partial dispersion elements. Like other Zeiss lenses, it utilizes Zeiss’ proprietary T* coatings. Zeiss knows optics, and the Batis delivers a great optical performance.

Let’s break it down:

If you would like to see some charts comparing different attributes, click on any of these and they will open in a separate tab where you can compare them in detail.

If you closely analyze these charts you will probably come up with the same conclusion I did after hundreds and hundreds of photos and shooting, shooting a number of comparisons, and looking at a lot of 42 megapixel files at a 1:1 level:  there are differences between these lenses in terms of performance…but it isn’t massive.  The Sigma shows the strongest corner performance at F1.4, the Samyang has the softest bokeh, the GM has the highest contrast and delivers the highest resolution stopped down…but none of these differences are major.  I think it highly likely that if I were to mislabel any of the images from one of these six particular lenses that very, very few people would spot the difference.

The Batis 85mm takes high marks for being consistently excellent across the frame.  It is extremely sharp in the middle of the frame, and is only mildly less sharp and contrasty in the corners.  Take a look at this real-world, available light resolution on skin textures at F1.8:

Could you really ask for better resolution than that?  The Batis 85mm is stunningly sharp wide open, and doesn’t need any stopping down to boost resolution.  

Contrast, too, is simply exceptional, with crisp delineation of edges.

This, combined with good Eye AF performance, works well even in getting great images of pets:

Aberrations are also well controlled, with very little CA to be seen in the form of either purple fringing before the plane of focus or the green fringing common after the plane of focus or in bokeh highlights.

While the contrast in the text example above isn’t Otus level, real world contrast is excellent.

The one optical flaw from the Batis is that it exhibits the strongest level of pincushion distortion of any of the 85mm lenses I tested.  This will be corrected in-camera for JPEGs, fortunately.

While I didn’t consider the bokeh from the Batis 85mm to be “best in show” (the F1.4 options generally win that comparison), the bokeh and rendering from the Batis is probably tops among the F1.8 options.  The two charts below will give you a couple of comparison points that you can peruse on a pixel level in a second tab.

Bokeh is a subjective measure, of course, and these are just a few examples, but over time I get a feel for a lens by shooting with it.  I found the bokeh to be very nice from the Batis in many situations.  There were a few situations where it got a little busy, but those moments were thankfully rare.  The geometry isn’t great (there is a lot of “cat-eye effect” along the edges, but the quality of the blur is nice and soft.

Here’s a few other “bokeh images” to allow you to get a sense for yourself:

No 85mm lens is going to be mistaken for a macro lens, as they tend to have rather poor reproduction ratios.  The Batis 85mm does deliver a slightly-better-than-average performance, though, with a 0.126x magnification.  That was actually second best in my current comparison by a small margin.  Here’s as close as it can get to my classic Kodak timer:

Zeiss glass is well known for producing great color, and that’s true of the Batis 85mm as well.  I don’t think the Batis series is quite at the level of the Loxia lenses for color, but this lens is very good.

So while the Batis 85mm doesn’t necessarily distinguish itself from the pack in the image quality department, that’s only because all of these lenses are actually very good.   It’s performance is actually excellent…but so is the competition.  And that is the challenge for the Batis 85mm in 2019; the competitions has gotten a lot better!

Conclusion

I thought it was worth noting that after years on the market, the Batis 85mm has 114 user reviews on B&H Photo with an aggregate 5 star rating. Simply put: people love this lens.  It has both the advantage of being the first autofocusing 85mm option on Sony’s fledgling FE platform, but that’s also a disadvantage, as more recent options have arrived with excellent performance and easier to swallow price tags.  The single greatest standout feature for the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 Sonnar is the inclusion of an optical stabilizer, though this advantage too has been watered down somewhat by Sony going on to develop excellent in body image stabilization for subsequent cameras.  All that aside, however, the Batis 85mm is a beautiful lens that produces outstanding images.  

It’s also overpriced in the current landscape of 85mm lenses.  It’s hard to justify a nearly $1200 USD price tag for an F1.8 lens when one has two F1.4 options for that price or cheaper.  At the moment of this review there is an instant savings of $301 on the Batis 85mm, and it is a much better value option at $898 USD, though I don’t know how long this price reduction will last.  The best customer for the Batis 85mm is the one who is already familiar with the unique Batis formula and wants to match up with the rest of the series.  Batis lenses deliver consistent color, excellent contrast and detail, and are light and portable.  Those are still good reasons to consider the Batis 85mm…particularly if that price reduction continues!

Pros:

  • The only 85mm FE option to include OS
  • Nice build – good mix of build quality and light weight
  • Quiet, smooth autofocus system
  • OLED distance window can be useful
  • Excellent sharpness across the frame
  • Good color and contrast
  • Eye AF worked well in real-world situations

Cons:

  • Overpriced relative to competition
  • Fairly strong pincushion distortion
  • Autofocus accuracy during action sequences slightly disappointing

Gear Used:

Purchase the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8 STM FE @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 

Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART E @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
 

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Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM Review

Dustin Abbott

August 19th, 2019

I recently completed a six-way comparison of all the currently available autofocusing lenses for Sony’s full frame mirrorless (FE) platform. These lenses cover a wide range of price points, from $379 (all prices USD) for the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8, to $598 (Sony 85mm F1.8), $699 (Samyang AF 85mm F1.4), $1199 (Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 and Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART FE), and, then at the top of the pile, is the Sony 85mm F1.4 GM (G Master) at a whopping $1798! The 85GM is part of Sony’s premium G Master lineup, which is both more feature rich than competing lenses and designed with exacting optical standards. But is the 85GM worth the money?

The answer is…maybe. It’s complicated.  I’m doing these tests and comparisons on the Sony a7RIII. 

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Sony 85GM Build, Features, and Design

There’s no question that the 85GM sets on top of the heap in terms of its feature set. Autofocusing mirrorless lenses tend (for the most part) to be cleaner and simpler than their DSLR counterparts. Because they utilize focus-by-wire manual focus systems, there is no traditional distance window or hyperfocal markings. Some mirrorless lenses (like the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4) have literally nothing other than a focus ring on them.

The 85GM manages to pack in a lot of features despite that.  You can see all the details and how it compares to the other 85mm options here:

It features a hybrid Auto/Manual aperture ring (the only 85mm of the bunch to feature this). Want to just control aperture from the within the camera? No problem – just move the dial to A (for automatic). You have the option to manually select aperture in 1/3rd stop increments via the aperture ring, however, which is my preferred approach when I have the option. There is also another feature in the form of a switch that allows one to “declick” the aperture, which can be particularly useful for video work if one wants to do aperture racking. 

The 85GM also has a unique Sony feature that only the FE 85mm F1.8 shares of this bunch of lenses – the AF Hold button. The button on the side of the barrel can actually be programmed for a variety of different functions. I used to primarly use this button to map Eye AF, but thanks to Sony’s firmware 3.0 which brought full time Eye AF, this is no longer necessary. That makes this button still valuable, but perhaps less so to those of us who primarily used it for that purpose.

There is also an AF/MF switch, which I do prefer to have even on mirrorless. I have AF/MF mapped to the “down” position on the D-pad of my a7RIII, but the feedback is more definite and precise with an actual switch.

The focus ring is nicely sized and has a rubberized, ribbed texture. While this is a focus by wire system (input from the focus ring goes through the focus motor, which then moves the elements as opposed to a direct mechanical coupling to the lens focus elements), Sony has done a good job in providing a realistic damping to the focus ring that makes it behave more like a traditional focus ring. I found that there was enough weight to the ring for precise focus, though major focus changes will require multiple rotations of the ring.

The included lens hood is the only one of the bunch to have a locking mechanism.  This assures that you don’t accidentally knock the hood askew.

The 85GM would come across as being fairly heavy…if it weren’t for the Sigma which completely skews perspective. The 85GM weighs in at a robust 820g (28.8oz). This definely outpaces the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 (568g/19.2oz) but lags well behind the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART at a portly 1130g/40oz (which more than doubles the weight of the Samyang!!!) The 85GM has a sturdy build complete with dust and moisture resistance (gasket and internal seals). It has a semi-gloss, lightly flocked exterior, which, in my experience, is one of the most resistant to smudging or scratches.

The basic lens shape is nearly identical to that of the Samyang, as the 85GM is 89.5mm (3.52″) in diameter and the length is 107.5mm (4.23″). The Samyang is slightly smaller at 88mm (3.46″) in diameter and essentially 100mm (3.9″) in length. The lens has a squat profile that looks pretty sweet mounted on the camera.

Up front there is a common 77mm filter thread. Inside there is a more premium-than-usual 11 rounded aperture blade iris that helps to retain a circular aperture shape with the lens stopped down.

The 85GM has a beautiful build and the most robust feature set of any 85mm option on Sony. So far so good…

Sony 85GM Autofocus

Sony utilizes their linear SSM (SuperSonic wave Motor) in the 85GM. F1.4 lenses require powerful focus motors because the elements are large and heavy and require a fair amount of torque to move them. The best focus systems mask that by operating in a quick, quiet way that hides that fact. The 85GM doesn’t quite hit that mark.

Once again you can check out the performance against the other options in this video segment:

Autofocus is quick when making smaller focus changes, but large focus changes are definitely more deliberate. There’s also more noise in operation than some competitors, with some minor whirring and grinding as the elements move along. This is loud enough to be picked up by on-board microphones during video. It’s not loud, but when using quieter options side by side (like the 85mm F1.8, the Batis, or even the Samyang) the quality of focus seems a like cruder.

When doing video AF (see this video episode for actual footage and focus observations), you can hear some noise when making focus changes, and when making major focus changes you might see a “stepping” action where the lens travels partway and pauses for a split second before completing the focus action.

That’s the bad news. The good news is that in my various focus tests the 85GM actually did fairly well. When shooting fast moving action, it scored the third highest score (behind the FE 85mm F1.8 and the Samyang) and had the highest number of perfectly focused results (36 out of 46 in a burst). Where it stumbled was an occasional bad miss where the focus shifted either far ahead or far behind the runner. There would sometimes be another frame with focus slightly off as the lens tried to either move back to or catch up with the action. In my test it came up with a score of 85% (for reference, the Samyang was at 89% and the FE 85mm F1.8 at 90%).

In my Eye AF test in a portrait setting, the 85GM scored a perfect 100% score, with all portrait shots perfectly focused.

I also used the 85GM at a multi-day event and got exceptionally good focus results under a variety of shooting and lighting conditions (some quite challenging). I never had an issue with focus slowing down in lower light situations, and it continued to lock focus effectively.

So, outside of a little more noise and an occasional slower focus rack, I had good results with the 85GM lens.

Oddly enough, the focus feels a little less refined than with the much cheaper Sony F1.8 lens, though the same could be said for the FE 55mm F1.8 vs the much more expensive Planar 50mm F1.4.  So, while the 85GM’s autofocus gets the job done, it will not come across as being the most refined option.

Sony 85GM Image Quality

Sony’s GM (G Master) lenses are built to very high optical standards and deliver very good results. The challenge for them is often similar to that faced by Zeiss lenses, and it is this question: is that extra little bit of performance worth a LOT more money? There is no simple answer to this question, as the answer will change from person to person. For some photographers a lens that gives 90-95% of the performance (like the Samyang or Sigma ART) at 39% (Samyang) or 67% (Sigma) of the price is the obvious choice, while others believe that that extra bit of performance is worth the money. There’s a market for Zeiss Otus lenses for just this reason.

The 85GM has an optical formula of 11 elements in 8 groups, including one XA element (helping with astigmatism, field curvature, coma, and other spherical aberrations). There are also three extra low dispersion elements to help reduce chromatic aberrations and deliver accurate, neutral color rendition. The lens also features Nano AR coatings to help to reduce flare, reflections, and ghosting. These also help with contrast…which is a big strength for the 85GM.  Even at F1.4 in this high contrast situation the GM delivers very clean, crisp results.

After my 50mm Sony shootout I personally spent the extra money to buy the Sony Zeiss Planar 50mm F1.4 (essentially the GM option at 50mm before there were GM lenses). I considered that extra bit of performance to be worth the money (and I didn’t love the rendering/bokeh from the 1.8/55.) One thing I loved about the Planar was the great microcontrast which I felt make the lens render somewhat similarly to the Zeiss Otus 55mm F1.4. The 85GM shares this characteristic, and the single biggest advantage I think it offers is that images have great microcontrast (at a pixel level) at wide apertures in a way that exceeds the other 85mm options.

The Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART has a dirty little secret. While it tests very well in CA control in a lab, in real world conditions with harsher lighting a fair amount of fringing will show up in certain situations. Not so with the 85GM.

The Samyang has less microcontrast at a pixel level than the G Master at wider apertures. That’s not to say that the GM has all the advantages. The Sigma has better corner resolution, and the Samyang has arguably nicer bokeh, but there are going to be photographers who care about the little details and feel like the Sony GM lens delivers the best performance. Let’s break it down (these two video segments will give that information in detail):

If you would like to see some charts comparing different attributes, click on any of these and they will open in a separate tab where you can compare them in detail.

If you closely analyze these charts you will probably come up with the same conclusion I did after hundreds and hundreds of photos and shooting, shooting a number of comparisons, and looking at a lot of 42 megapixel files at a 1:1 level:  there are differences between these lenses in terms of performance…but it isn’t massive.  The Sigma shows the strongest corner performance at F1.4, the Samyang has the softest bokeh, the GM has the highest contrast and delivers the highest resolution stopped down…but none of these differences are major.  I think it highly likely that if I were to mislabel any of the images from one of these six particular lenses that very, very few people would spot the difference.

The 85GM is extremely sharp in the middle of the frame, and sports the highest levels of contrast.  The Sigma looks better at F1.4 in the corners, but by F2.8 and beyond the GM is the highest resolving lens.

On that note, however, if you are photographing more than one person, know that depth of field at medium distances with an 85mm lens is quite shallow.  It’s entirely possible to shoot at F4 or even F5.6 and not have everyone’s face perfectly in focus.  It’s helpful to try to get everyone as close to the same plane of focus as possible.  At F1.4, however, you can have the eyes and not the eyelashes in focus, for example.  I shot these budding apples, and look at how out of focus the leaves ahead of them are.

The 85GM can serve as a nice landscape lens when stopped down.  Even at F2.8 the detail across the frame here is incredibly good:

It also delivers excellent colors, with good levels of saturation and good accuracy. 

Many shooters who have used both Sony 85mm options prefer the way that the GM handles skin.  It delivers a more nuanced, flattering performance than the cheaper 85mm option.  Look at this comparison:

There is more nuance in the skin tones themselves with the GM.  The fine hairs on the face are better resolved, with little details showing up that are lacking with the cheaper lens.  Also note the superior levels of contrast in the hair.  Also worth noting is that the tree in the background is softer and with less hard edges.  

Here’s another portrait example.  This is at F2.8, and shows off the strengths of the GM.  It has great contrast, rich color, and massive amounts of detail.

Chromatic aberrations were mostly well controlled (see the text example below).  There is very little purple fringing before the plane of focus, but you will see a bit of a blue-green fringing after the plane of focus.  I saw no real world situation that was much affected by this.

I consider the Samyang AF 85mm’s bokeh to be “best in show”, but the differences aren’t significant.  The two charts below will give you a couple of comparison points that you can peruse on a pixel level in a second tab.

The Samyang has larger and softer bokeh highlights at similar distances, though the 85GM wins for having the best geometry near the edges of the frame.  Circular highlights are circular rather than lemon-shaped.  The extra aperture blades also helps bokeh highlights to remain nice and round even when stopped down.  Here’s the difference between F1.4 and F4:

The 85GM has arguably the best mix of “punch” along with soft bokeh.  Bokeh is a subjective measure, of course, but I was generally happy with the “look” of images from the 85GM.  You can look at a few more “bokeh shots” and make a determination for yourself:

My one complaint in the bokeh department when comparing to the other F1.4 lenses (see the comparison charts above) is that the size (and thus softness) of the bokeh circles at identical differences were smaller on the 85GM than the Sigma (a bit) and Samyang (more so).  This is probably due to a slightly shorter-than-85mm focal length, some focus breathing, or even a slightly smaller aperture opening (or some combination of these).  It’s not a big thing, and the fact remains that you wouldn’t notice it if you didn’t have a number of 85mm lenses side by side as I did for my comparison series.

No 85mm lens is going to be mistaken for a macro lens, as they tend to have rather poor reproduction ratios.  The 85GM is no exception, delivering a middle-of-the-pack 0.12x magnification.  Here’s as close as it can get to my classic Kodak timer:

I really enjoyed the 85GM as an event lens.  It delivers such good contrast and sharpness wide open that I could shoot constantly at F1.4, which allowed me to keep my shutter speed up and my ISO down.  This allowed me to walk away with cleaner images that still had a lot of punch.  While I used it for a religious event (I had no weddings scheduled during my review period), I feel the 85GM would make a very good wedding lens for the same reasons that it worked well in my religious venue.

There’s no question that the Sony 85mm F1.4 G Master lens delivers a strong optical performance, with great resolution, best of class micro-contrast, and quality bokeh.

Conclusion

The G Master lenses were the answer to the challenge that Sony didn’t have enough serious lenses for its full frame mirrorless platform. They satisfied the need for high end primes and zoom lenses that competed with the premium options on the Canon and Nikon platforms and helped give Sony mirrorless legitimacy as a third player (where it never quite arrived on the DSLR front). They continue to represent excellence in build, features, and performance, and the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 G Master is no exception to this rule. Ironically, however, it is the exploding popularity of the Sony platform that creates a challenge for a lens like the 85GM. This last year has seen new 85mm F1.4 options from Samyang and Sigma that compete at much lower price points and bring their own strengths to the table. There are also now three F1.8 autofocus options as well at various price points (Viltrox, Zeiss Batis, and Sony), not to mention two other manual focus options that I’ve reviewed (Viltrox MF and Zeiss Loxia). That is EIGHT 85mm options!!

So where does the 85GM fit in the equation? Above all it is still the answer for those that want the most premium option in the class, or those who want F1.4 and distrust third parties. It is the most feature rich option in the class as well. At the same time, however, the lofty price of 85GM ($600 more than the next most expensive AF option) is going to make it a harder sell in the current market for more value oriented shoppers.

The 85GM delivers beautiful results with a tremendous amount of wide open punch, but in all fairness you probably need to look at a pixel level to appreciate the difference from the Samyang or Sigma lenses. Even then the difference is not significant. But it does exist, and maybe, just maybe, that’s enough for you.

Pros:

  • Beautiful build quality with advanced weather sealing
  • Feature rich lens – aperture options include MF and declick options
  • Best of class microcontrast
  • Tops in resolution from F2.8 on
  • Delivers better skin tones and facial nuance than cheaper options
  • Best all-round balance of resolution and rendering
  • Accurate autofocus

Cons:

  • Very expensive relative to competition on platform
  • Autofocus not as smooth and quiet as other choices
  • Some visible stepping during bigger video focus pulls

Individual Reviews:

    • Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8: Text | Video
    • Sony FE 85mm F1.8: Text | Video
    • Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8: Text | Video
    • Samyang AF 85mm F1.4: Text | Video
    • Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART: Text | Video
    • Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM: Text | Video

 

Gear Used:

Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8 STM FE @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART E @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
 

Sony a7R III Camera: B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon.ca | Amazon UK  | Ebay
Peak Design Slide Lite:  Peak Design StoreB&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK

(Portrait Lighting) Purchase the Godox AD200 Pro @ B&H Photo  | Amazon  | Amazon Canada  | Amazon UK  | Amazon Germany  | Ebay

BenQ SW271 4K Photo Editing Monitor – B&H Photo  | Amazon | Amazon.ca | Amazon UK
Adobe Photoshop Creative Cloud 1-Year Subscription
Alien Skin Exposure X4 (Use Code “dustinabbott” to get 10% anything and everything)
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Sony FE 85mm F1.8 Review

Dustin Abbott

August 12th, 2019

I recently completed a six-way comparison of all the currently available autofocusing lenses for Sony’s full frame mirrorless (FE) platform. These lenses cover a wide range of price points, from $379 (all prices USD) for the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8, to $598 (Sony 85mm F1.8), $699 (Samyang AF 85mm F1.4), $1199 (Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 and Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART FE), and, then at the top of the pile, is the Sony 85mm F1.4 GM (G Master) at a whopping $1798! The FE85 is widely considered the best value lens on Sony FE as it delivers a strong optical performance, has great autofocus, and a solid build. In the first two years of its release the FE85 was the easy value choice, undercutting the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 by $600 and the G Master by $1200!

In the first half of 2019, however, the Sony FE85 has gotten squeezed from both below and above. The Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8 STM is a really solid lens, with a robust, metal construction, fairly strong autofocus, and a good optical performance…and it costs more than $200 less. Perhaps even more compelling is the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4, which has premium linear motor focus, a weather sealed build, beautiful optics, and a “sexier” F1.4 maximum aperture…and it costs only $100 more. But, while I’m late to the party in reviewing the FE85 (it was released in 2017), it has already established a well-deserved reputation for value and is certainly considered the “safe choice” at the focal length.

But is it the best choice in 2019? Read on find out…

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Sony FE85 Build, Features, and Design

If you are interested in a comparison to the other 85mm options in the build, features, and design area, check out this video:

There’s little to complain about in the build department of the FE85, as, while it isn’t a luxury lens, it has a really solid and clean build and design. Autofocusing mirrorless lenses tend (for the most part) to be cleaner and simpler than their DSLR counterparts. Because they utilize focus-by-wire manual focus systems, there is no traditional distance window or hyperfocal markings. Some mirrorless lenses (like the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4) have literally nothing other than a focus ring on them.

The FE85 has only three elements on the lens barrel, but they are all useful. One is a AF/MF switch. It might seem like a small thing, but I still prefer this feature even on mirrorless bodies because it tends to be more “definite” than the same feature mapped to the camera (I have it mapped to the down position on the D-Pad of my a7RIII body).

The FE85 also has a unique Sony feature – the AF Hold button. The button on the side of the barrel can actually be programmed for a variety of different functions. I used to primarly use this button to map Eye AF, but thanks to Sony’s firmware 3.0 which brought full time Eye AF, this is no longer necessary. That makes this button still valuable, but perhaps less so to those of us who primarily used it for that purpose.

The focus ring is nicely sized with a finely ribbed texture. While this is a focus by wire system (input from the focus ring goes through the focus motor, which then moves the elements as opposed to a direct mechanical coupling to the lens focus elements), Sony has done a good job in providing a realistic damping to the focus ring that makes it behave more like a traditional focus ring. I found that there was enough weight to the ring for precise focus, though major focus changes will require multiple rotations of the ring.

The FE85 wins the prize in the class for minimalism. It is lean and spare, managing to combine a nice build with light weight and compact size. It is both the smallest and lightest lens in the group of 8!!! 85mm lenses for Sony FE that I’ve now reviewed. It is only 3.07” (78mm) in diameter and 3.23” (82mm) in length and weighs only 13.1 oz (371g). The Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART (the behemoth in the class) weighs more than 3 times as much!

Up front is a highly standard 67mm front filter thread. You’ll find a lot of lenses that share this filter size.

The body seems to be built out of a lightweight metal alloy (aluminum is my guess), and, while the gasket is so thin as to be hard to find, Sony claims that the lens is weather-sealed. I find, like the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4, that the FE85 seems to strike the perfect balance between a nice build and reasonable weight.

While no 85mm lens sets any kind of record for maximum magnification, the FE85 is (marginally) the best among the 85mm options on Sony at 0.13x. This is achieved at a minimum focus distance of 2.62’ (80cm), which is fairly standard for the class. The minor variations from lens to lens suggest minor variances in actual focal length, which suggests to me that the FE85 is probably ever-so-slightly longer than 85mm.

The aperture iris is a standard nine rounded blades which helps retain a circular shape to bokeh highlights when stopped down (here’s a look at F2.8):

The lens barrel itself is black, anodized satin finish. It’s a handsome, clean design that I like a lot.

There’s essentially nothing to complain about when it comes to the build of the FE85. It is light and compact, nicely made, and entirely functional.

Sony FE85 Autofocus

Sony utilizes linear focus motors in the FE85, which, at the moment, seems to me to be the best focus system for mirrorless lenses. It’s not uncommon for F1.8 lenses to actually focus faster and smoother than F1.4 lenses for the primary reason that F1.4 elements are much bigger and heavier and thus require more torque to move. In the case of the two Sony lenses (this and the F1.4 G Master), the FE85 is definitely the better focusing lens of the two.

As a part of my 85mm Showdown, I ran extensive autofocus tests on all the lenses. You can see these in action in this video segment:

When shooting fast moving action, it scored the highest score, slightly besting the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4. I shot an extended burst of shots of a sprinting runner coming towards the camera (more challenging than a subject moving laterally). There were 47 shots in the burst, and, in post, I examined each shot at a pixel level and rated it 1-5 for quality of focus. The FE85 was the only lens to have no major misses (1s or 2s), and 45 out of the 47 shots fell in the nearly perfect (4) and perfect (5) categories, with just 2 shots landing in the average focus (3) zone. The only misstep here was that focus was often a little ahead of the subject, resulting in fewer perfectly focused results than the Samyang or Sony GM lenses (#2 and #3 in the standings). In my test it came up with a score of 90% (for reference, the Samyang was at 89% and the GM at 85%).

In my Eye AF test in a portrait setting, the FE85 scored a perfect 100% score, with all portrait shots perfectly focused. This involved defocusing between each shot so that the lens had to pick up the eye and focus again. Since Sony’s firmware 3.0 firmware update, Eye AF really works like a treat with good lenses, with the eye being continually focuses on in real time. It makes shooting events a treat, though periodically the system will choose a background face that is square to the camera over a nearer subject in profile. It’s easy to override this with a thumb to the touchscreen, though.

I also used the FE85 at a multi-day event and got exceptionally good focus results under a variety of shooting and lighting conditions (some quite challenging). I never had an issue with focus slowing down in lower light situations, and it continued to lock focus effectively.

During video AF the FE85 ran neck and neck with the Zeiss Batis 85mm for the best result. It moved confidently and quickly from subject to subject when doing focus pulls, with no detectable noise in operation. Accuracy was good, with next to no pulsing but an occasional very minor “settling” when nailing focus. Focus-by-wire lenses aren’t as good for manual video work as a good manual focus lens (if you want to do manual focus video work, the Loxia 85mm F2.4 is a treat!). The nature of focus-by-wire makes manual focus changes less linear or predictable. The FE85 is great if you want to use autofocus during video work, though.

In summation, I have nothing but good to say about the FE85’s autofocus. My notes say this: “Fast and quiet.” “Smooth”. “Few daily use complaints”. “Focus stayed close but not always perfect during tracking. No wild swings off the plane of focus.” There are a lot of satisfied customers out there for a reason.

Sony FE85 Image Quality

The FE85 has an optical formula of 9 elements in 8 groups (the simplest in the AF group), including

You can get all the details and comparisons in these video episode here:

Let’s break it down:

If you would like to see some charts comparing different attributes, click on any of these and they will open in a separate tab where you can compare them in detail.

If you closely analyze these charts you will probably come up with the same conclusion I did after hundreds and hundreds of photos and shooting, shooting a number of comparisons, and looking at a lot of 42 megapixel files at a 1:1 level:  there are differences between these lenses in terms of performance…but it isn’t massive.  The Sigma shows the strongest corner performance at F1.4, the Samyang has the softest bokeh, the GM has the highest contrast and delivers the highest resolution stopped down…but none of these differences are major.  I think it highly likely that if I were to mislabel any of the images from one of these six particular lenses that very, very few people would spot the difference.

The FE85 fairs quite well in these comparisons.  It is very sharp in the center of the frame, loses a bit of contrast towards the edges of mid frame, and essentially holds that right into the corners.  By F2.8 there is plenty of sharpness and contrast in the corners, and you no longer need to worry about aperture other than for depth of field purposes. 

On that note, however, if you are photographing more than one person, know that depth of field at medium distances with an 85mm lens is quite shallow.  It’s entirely possible to shoot at F4 or even F5.6 and not have everyone’s face perfectly in focus.  It’s helpful to try to get everyone as close to the same plane of focus as possible.  Here are F2 and a distance of roughly 12 feet away you can see that the boy before the plane of focus is slightly out of focus, the girl (where focus took place) is perfectly focused, and the third boy (behind the plane of focus) is quite out of focus.

The FE85 can serve as a nice landscape lens when stopped down:

It also delivers nice colors, with good levels of saturation and good accuracy. 

The Batis lens delivers slightly better levels of contrast, but not in any significant way.  The Viltrox is slightly warmer, but I think the Sony FE85 is probably more neutral.  The Sony delivers slightly less vignette than either of these lenses, and benefits from a higher degree of in-camera correction for what is there.

Chromatic aberrations were mostly well controlled (see the text example below), though in one comparison test where I shot portraits with a white archway beyond the subject, I did see a bit more green fringing from the FE85 than the other competitors…though this was pretty isolated.

While I didn’t consider the bokeh from the FE85 to be “best in show” (the F1.4 options generally win that comparison), once again the differences aren’t significant.  The two charts below will give you a couple of comparison points that you can peruse on a pixel level in a second tab.

Bokeh is a subjective measure, of course, and these are just a few examples, but over time I get a feel for a lens by shooting with it.  I found the bokeh to be good if unexceptional from the lens.  You can look at a few more “bokeh shots” and make a determination for yourself:

No 85mm lens is going to be mistaken for a macro lens, as they tend to have rather poor reproduction ratios.  The FE85 does deliver a slightly-better-than-average performance, though, with a 0.13x magnification.  That was actually the best in my current comparison by a small margin.  Here’s as close as it can get to my classic Kodak timer:

So while the FE85 doesn’t necessarily distinguish itself from the pack in the image quality department, that’s only because all of these lenses are actually very good.  It would easily best, say, the Canon EF 85mm F1.8, with more sharpness, less chromatic aberrations, and better contrast.  It’s performance is actually excellent…but so is the competition.  The FE85’s advantage is that does it in a smaller, lighter, and (often) cheaper package.

Conclusion

To this point the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 has been somewhat of an oddity:  a high performing, reasonably priced option.  Among the Sony-branded lenses for full frame mirrorless it arguably delivers the higher price to performance ratio and has occupied a pretty comfortable position in the old hierarchy of Sony F1.8, Batis F1.8, and GM F1.4 lenses.  But 2018 and 2019 changed the calculus. This last year has seen new 85mm F1.4 options from Samyang and Sigma that bring a lot of performance at a more reasonable price point (the Samyang is only $100 more!)  New lensmaker Viltrox brought a similar 85mm F1.8 option that comes in at about $200 cheaper.  There are also now six autofocusing 85mm lens for Sony FE, not to mention two other manual focus options that I’ve reviewed (Viltrox MF and Zeiss Loxia). That is EIGHT 85mm options!!

So where does that leave the FE85?  Mostly safe, I would say, though it will lose some buyers to the Samyang and Viltrox either for those wanting the larger F1.4 aperture (and the Samyang is a gorgeous portrait lens) or a lower price point (the Viltrox is a LOT of lens for the money).  Still, the Sony FE85 still seems like the safe choice.  It’s a tried and true performer that many continue to rave about.  It’s got excellent autofocus, good image quality, and it is a first party lens…and many buyers are still not comfortable with third party options.  It’s still hard to argue against the value and compact nature of the FE85.  It’s a winning formula that Sony would be wise to repeat more often!

Pros:

  • Nicely built lens that is also lightweight and compact
  • Excellent autofocus with good accuracy and quiet performance
  • Strong image quality with excellent sharpness and contrast
  • Well controlled CA
  • Good bokeh
  • Low distortion
  • Good Eye AF performance
  • Very reasonable price

Cons:

  • Bokeh slightly less smooth than Batis or Viltrox lenses

Gear Used:

Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8 STM FE @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART E @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
 

Sony a7R III Camera: B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon.ca | Amazon UK  | Ebay
Peak Design Slide Lite:  Peak Design StoreB&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK

BenQ SW271 4K Photo Editing Monitor – B&H Photo  | Amazon | Amazon.ca | Amazon UK
Adobe Photoshop Creative Cloud 1-Year Subscription
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Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM Image Gallery

Dustin Abbott

July 22nd, 2019

One of my main projects for 2019 was a plan to pit all the current autofocus 85mm options on the full frame Sony E-mount platform head to head.  I’ve done something similar for 50mm options (and, to a lesser extent, 35mm options) on Sony.  I’ve done a major 85mm shootout on the Canon platform and found it personally helpful and enjoyable, and this will be the biggest test ever due to several new players at 85mm in the past year.  I will be looking at all the autofocus options (6 of them!!!), including 3 85mm F1.8 lenses (Sony FE, Zeiss Batis, and Viltrox AF) along with 3 F1.4 options (Sony GM, Samyang AF, and Sigma ART).  Three of these lenses are ones that I have never previously reviewed, however, so I will be carefully looking at the two Sony options along with the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 (the only Batis lens I hadn’t reviewed yet).  The lens at the top of the heap is the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM (G Master), which carries the heftiest price tag by far.  It also has some serious areas of excellence, and looking through these galleries will help to demonstrate that truth. I’m doing these tests and comparisons on the Sony a7RIII.  Stay tuned for my review of the lens!

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Individual Reviews:

Photos of the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM

Photos Taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM 

Gear Used:

Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8 STM FE @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART E @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
 

Sony a7R III Camera: B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon.ca | Amazon UK  | Ebay
Peak Design Slide Lite:  Peak Design StoreB&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK

(Portrait Lighting) Purchase the Godox AD200 Pro @ B&H Photo  | Amazon  | Amazon Canada  | Amazon UK  | Amazon Germany  | Ebay

BenQ SW271 4K Photo Editing Monitor – B&H Photo  | Amazon | Amazon.ca | Amazon UK
Adobe Photoshop Creative Cloud 1-Year Subscription
Alien Skin Exposure X4 (Use Code “dustinabbott” to get 10% anything and everything)
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Sony AF 85mm Showdown

Dustin Abbott

July 12th, 2019

One of my main projects for 2019 was a plan to pit all the current autofocus 85mm options on the full frame Sony E-mount platform head to head.  I’ve done something similar for 50mm options (and, to a lesser extent, 35mm options) on Sony.  I’ve done a major 85mm shootout on the Canon platform and found it personally helpful and enjoyable, and this will be the biggest test ever due to several new players at 85mm in the past year.  I will be looking at all the autofocus options (6 of them!!!), including 3 85mm F1.8 lenses (Sony FE, Zeiss Batis, and Viltrox AF) along with 3 F1.4 options (Sony GM, Samyang AF, and Sigma ART).  Three of these lenses are ones that I have never previously reviewed, however, so I will be carefully looking at the two Sony options along with the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 (the only Batis lens I hadn’t reviewed yet).  I’ll be doing individual reviews on the two Sony options along with the Zeiss, and will do a mini-review on the Sigma in FE form. I’m doing these tests and comparisons on the Sony a7RIII.

This post will serve as the landing page for the various reviews along with galleries of images from each lens, including photos that are shot in identical conditions for comparison along with unique photos from each lens.  I’ll also post the videos here as I release them.

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Individual Reviews:

Photos of the Sony AF 85mm Lenses

Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.8

Photos taken with the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8

Photos taken with the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8

Photos taken with the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4

Photos taken with the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART

Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM

Gear Used:

Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Viltrox AF 85mm F1.8 STM FE @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sony FE 85mm F1.4 GM @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Sigma 85mm F1.4 ART E @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
Purchase the Samyang AF 85mm F1.4 @ B&H Photo | Amazon | Amazon Canada | Amazon UK | Amazon Germany | Ebay 
 

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Sony FE 85mm F1.8 Image Gallery

Dustin Abbott

July 10th, 2019

All year long I’ve had the goal of doing a major 85mm showdown on the Sony platform, as I’ve done something similar for 50mm options (and, to a lesser extent, 35mm options) on Sony.  I’ve done a major 85mm shootout on the Canon platform and found it personally helpful and enjoyable, and this will be the biggest test ever due to several new players at 85mm in the past year.  I will be looking at all the autofocus options, including 3 85mm F1.8 lenses (Sony FE, Zeiss Batis, and Viltrox AF) along with 3 F1.4 options (Sony GM, Samyang AF, and Sigma ART).  Three of these lenses are ones that I have never previously reviewed, however, so I will be carefully looking at the two Sony options along with the Zeiss Batis 85mm F1.8 (the only Batis lens I hadn’t reviewed yet).  The Sony FE 85mm F1.8 is a popular lens for a reason, combining a nice build, quality autofocus, and good optical performance at a reasonable price.  I’ll be exploring if it is still a worth option with all the new contenders.  Stay tuned for my ongoing coverage of the lens, but you can check out the images that I get during my review here in these galleries and get a taste for what it can accomplish.  I’m doing these tests and comparisons on the Sony a7RIII.

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Photos of the Sony FE 85mm F1.8

Photos taken with the Sony FE 85mm F1.8

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Zeiss Milvus Planar T* 1.4/85mm Review

Dustin Abbott

February 16th, 2016

Zeiss certainly surprised me when in September they announced and quickly released a whole new line of lenses under the name Milvus. Yes, line. In fact, there are six new lenses that were announced and then subsequently released under the Milvus name, including a 21mm f/2.8, 35mm f/2, 50mm f/1.4, 50mm f/2 Makro-Planar, 85mm f/1.5, and 100mm f/2 Makro-Planar. All of these received a handsome new design, but not all of them received major optical upgrades. There are two lenses that received major upgrades, and they are the 50mm f/1.4 and 85mm f/1.4. Two lenses that could relatively easily receive some trickle down goodness from the intense development that had resulted in the Zeiss Otus 55mm f/1.4 and Otus 85mm f/1.4 (click links for my reviews of those lenses) – two of the highest resolving SLR lenses the world has ever seen. With that in mind, I was particularly excited to get my hands on the Milvus 85mm because the Otus 85mm f/1.4 stands as the one lens that has probably excited me more than any other. And so, it with great pleasure that I have spent some time with the new Zeiss Milvus Planar T* 85mm f/1.4 to critique and enjoy this newest offering from Zeiss. Here are my findings.

Build Quality

This video will give you a careful look at the design, build, and handling of the lens.

When you open the box (a presentation style case like the ones the Otus lenses come in) the Otus DNA and family resemblance is pretty strong. The Milvus 1.4/85mm is a similarly dense metal and glass construction that looks more like an Otus than any of the other Zeiss designs of the past. Zeiss has made one significant nod towards the revised priorities of modern photographers by including moisture resistance/weather sealing into the design. This is, to my knowledge, the first Zeiss line to ever include this, and I liked the uniquely Zeiss touch of having the rubber gasket near the lens mount in Zeiss blue rather than the traditional black. There is more than the gasket, though; the lens has a variety of internal seals to keep moisture out. The end result is a lens that is built to survive a lifetime and to handle real world use of every kind.

The previous Zeiss Planar T* 1.4/85mm was a relatively modest sized lens (65mm long and 670g in weight), while the Otus 1.4/85mm was by far the largest 85mm to ever hit the shelves. The Milvus 85 definitely skews towards the Otus in overall dimensions. The current trend in lens design seems to be towards ultimate resolution and optical performance rather than too much attempt at keeping lenses compact. The Milvus measures a longish 4.45” (113mm) and a thick 3.54” (90mm) in circumference. This is a bit slimmer (11mm less) and shorter (11mm again) than the Otus. What is surprising, however, is that the Milvus actually outweighs the Otus by 40g and weighs in at a very hefty 2.82 pounds (1280g). This isn’t prohibitively heavy, but also only undercuts the weight of your typical 70-200mm f/2.8 zooms by a few hundred grams. Between it and the Canon 50mm f/1.0L I was reviewing at the same time my wrists definitely got a workout!

I have come to recognize over my review period that this is an issue to some Zeiss fans.  Zeiss lenses have always been dense because of their high grade construction, but they have also often been compact.  The move towards ever larger and heavier lenses will turn some off.  The problem is that the new camera sensors are ever more demanding, and what was optically acceptable in the past doesn’t look quite so good on a 30+ MP sensor.  Expect this trend among professional grade lenses to continue for a while if my review of lenses from a number of manufacturers is any indication.

The Otus and Milvus lines share a number of design cues in their elegant, semi-gloss metal bodies, but there are a few areas where the lines are distinguished. The Otus lenses feature engraved text filled with yellow paint (a point I found a bit garish, though it serves a practical purpose). The writing on the Milvus lens is also etched, but the paint scheme is a more sedate (and elegant) white. Earlier Zeiss designs featured metal focus rings (which I liked just fine), but the Otus lenses introduced a rubberized surface on the focus ring, with the Milvus line partially embraces. The Milvus focus ring is nicely wide (3 centimeters exactly), but only about a quarter of it is all that rubberized surface. Nearly three quarters feature a hybrid of rubberized surface and etched metal with the various numbers of the focus distance scale printed on it.  This ring is located fairly close to the lens mount.  Unfortunately this makes it a bit less easy to find using only your fingers than the completely rubberized ring of the Otus, which is also placed a little more centrally on the lens barrel. The Milvus’ focus ring also requires a bit more effort than that of the buttery smooth Otus (which has perhaps the world’s nicest manual focus feel).

The lens has the long focus throw that you would expect from a manual focus only lens.  It has about 260 degrees of travel, enough to nail focus at all focus distances.  Going from one extreme to the other is going to take a bit of focusing, but most of the time you will be making more minor adjustments.  Zeiss lenses do have an electronic coupling to the body, so the aperture can be controlled from the body and the camera meters as normal.  You will receive full EXIF data (a big deal to me) and the only real difference in operation from other lenses is that there is no autofocus.  The lens does provide a focus confirmation that will beep and/or light up the appropriate focus point (or the selected focus point) when focus has been achieved.  I find that between the focus confirmation and visual confirmation via the EG-S focus screen installed on my Canon 6D body that my focus keeper rate is very high.  The EG-S Matte Precision focus screen makes it much easier to visually see focus and actually makes composition a more creative process (and, I would say, more enjoyable).  It is $35 well spent if you want to use manual focus lenses, and it won’t interfere with autofocus lenses in any way.  I only rarely used Live View magnification during my review period, but zooming into most all of my images showed great focus (I do have some practice as this is ninth Zeiss lens I’ve reviewed or owned in the past two years along with a number of other MF only lenses from different manufacturers).  Here’s a sample along with the crop:

Another distinction between the Milvus and Otus lenses is that with the hood in place on the Otus the gap between the lens barrel and the lens hood remained constant. On the Milvus lens that very tight tolerance only exists when the lens is focused towards infinity. An inner barrel extends a bit as you focus towards minimum focus and the lens hood moves with it. At minimum focus there is nearly a centimeter gap between the outer barrel and the lens hood. There isn’t any real issue with this other than the fact that it slightly diminishes the “lines” of the lens in this position.

The Milvus 85 is a bit more squat than the Otus 85, which features more curves (in part because it swoops out to accommodate a fairly massive 86mm front element. The Milvus 85 flares out quickly from the lens mount and then its girth is essentially constant. Its shape isn’t quite as elegant, though it is still a beautiful lens.

I did note one potentially significant build issue related to this, however, at least on my main test body for the lens (a Canon EOS 6D); the squat shape of the lens leaves little room between the lens barrel and the grip. I found the back of my fingers feeling just the slightest bit “squeezed” when holding my camera – something I’ve never experienced before. The Otus 85 is an even larger lens, but it was a bit more contoured so didn’t flare quite so widely that close to the lens mount. I have medium sized hands, but I would consider my fingers to be fairly slim, so the fact that I experienced this issue in a minor way means that others with thicker fingers might experience it in a more significant way…particularly if wearing gloves (something most of us here in Canada are doing in January and February).  A Nikon user pointed out that there is a little more room on the Nikon mount of the lens because it includes an aperture ring in the design.

One positive change from the Otus is that the front element filter thread of the Milvus 1.4/85mm is a far more common and accessible 77mm as compared to the very uncommon 86mm filter thread on the Otus. Most photographers are likely to have a few filters in this size. On that note, I recommend that you have both a circular polarizer and a neutral density filter on hand for the lens. Wide aperture lenses like this let in a lot of light, and that’s wonderful, but on a bright day you may find yourself hitting the maximum shutter speed on your camera at wide apertures. Stopping down the aperture is always an option, but if you want to retain the shallow depth of field look a better option is to add an ND filter (I favor ND8 filters – three stops) which helps limit the amount of light that hits the sensor while still enabling you to use your lens at that wide aperture where it can produce beautifully unique images. A circular polarizer can also help with this to a slightly lesser extent and can also reduce reflections and/or enrich colors. On that note, the front element of the lens does not rotate during focus and won’t interfere with CPL use.

The Zeiss Milvus 1.4/85mm is a beautifully built lens with an attention to detail and construction that exceeds essentially all other competitors, and, with the addition of weather sealing, exceeds even its internal competitors.  One final thing worth noting is that both the front and the rear caps on the lens are nice upgrades from older Zeiss lenses.  Though Zeiss is a German company, the lenses are mostly manufactured in Japan.

Here’s a few more looks at this beauty:

Image Quality

I recommend that you spend some time with this video where I interactively look at the image quality and bokeh and will give you a closer look at a variety of images.

The Milvus 85 has 11 elements in 9 groups and features Zeiss’ renowned T* coatings to help with flare resistance and improve contrast.  This is a similar optical design to the Otus (also 11 elements in 9 groups), but do note that both lenses have separate optical designs.

The Milvus 85 is a definite recipient of the engineering that went into the Otus 85. It has incredible resolution at f/1.4 that is only surpassed (minutely) by the Otus 85 itself at the 85mm focal length, meaning that the Milvus 85 is one of the most highly resolving 35mm format lenses in the world.  In fact, while the Otus does exceed the Milvus lens in the center of the frame, the Milvus actually resolves better in the corners.  This wide open landscape shot at infinity focus shows the amazing resolving power of the Milvus even at f/1.4.

The crops are across the frame from left to right and show an incredible amount of resolution of all of these fine details despite the wide aperture.  Very, very impressive!

85mm lenses lenses are never noted for their maximum magnification or reproduction ratio, and the Milvus 85mm is no exception. It slots right between the Planar T* 1.4/85mm (.11x) and the Otus (.13x) at a very average .12x magnification. Minimum focus distance is 2.62” (80cm), though this can be improved through the use of extension tubes. The bare lens focuses down closely enough for headshots, though don’t expect to be doing anything remotely like macro work.  This gives you an idea of how closely you can focus:

Those interested in a top notch portrait lens may find even more to love with the Milvus than they do with the Otus. The Otus is a bit sharper in the center, but the Milvus is slightly sharper towards the edges of the frame. On this point I will cede the advantage to the Otus (I would prefer to reduce sharpness in a portrait if necessary as trying to add sharpness is far more destructive), but the Milvus does have arguably better bokeh performance. I think that many portrait photographers will find that the Milvus 85 offers the perfect balance between resolution and bokeh. The bokeh is extremely smooth, and the Milvus excelled in my specular highlight test in a way that few lenses do. There is no busyness in the center of the circular highlights, and the transition from focus to defocus is very nice and smooth. The Otus lenses show a slight trace of “onion bokeh” (particularly as the lens is stopped down), but the Milvus retains very smooth bokeh that has no busyness. There is an inner line when stopped, but it is not strongly pronounced.  Here’s a look at the aperture shape and bokeh as the lens is stopped down from f/1.4 to f/5.6:

This is one of the best performances I have seen in this kind of test, with remarkably smooth bokeh highlight circles and awesome contrast and sharpness on the subject even wide open.  This is a rare combination in my experience.

The Milvus has that unique high end Zeiss look with great color rendition and strong contrast, though I don’t think the microcontrast (at a pixel level) is quite as high as the Otus. The Otus 85 floored me optically in a way that no lens has before. The wide open resolution and the biting contrast has been the standard that I’ve judged every other lens by since. In the last two years, however, I’ve reviewed a number of new lenses from Canon, Sigma, Tamron, and even Samyang/Rokinon that have strained mightily towards the bar set by Zeiss with the Otus lenses. Lenses have gotten better, and, while the Milvus is an incredible optical tool, I’m a little less wowed simply because, well, I’ve become a bit jaded by seeing so many amazing lenses. That being said, though, the only 85mm lens that can surpass it is the Otus 85mm.  Expect JPEG images to be rich with contrast and color, though.  Here’s a look at an out of camera JPEG of some tulips:

This is a pretty lousy time of year for doing portraits (temperatures hit as low as -40 during my review period), but I did grab a few portrait images that help show what the lens is capable of:

For portrait work the great blend of amazing resolution at f/1.4 combined with the ability to create very nice background blur makes it an attractive option for portrait photographers.  Those that work in a studio will also value the resolution and great color reproduction.

A couple of other Milvus 85 strengths are extremely low chromatic aberrations (near imperceptible even at wide open aperture) and nearly non-existent distortion. Both of these contribute to the strengths of this lens for portraiture and for general purpose shooting.  It is worth noting that this lens works very nicely for chronicling events in crowds because of the great subject isolation and nice fade to defocus.

Thus far I have only encountered only one optical flaw to note, and that is a fairly pronounced vignette at wide apertures. At f/1.4 it is definitely noticeable and might have a real impact upon your images (particularly if you are shooting JPEGs.  This vignette is slightly heavier in the corners than any of the major competitors, and the only upside is that is fairly linear.  Here’s a look at the difference between an uncorrected and then corrected RAW image using the standard profile in Lightroom/ACR.

In some cases strongly vignette can be desirable, but I would definitely prefer to add it in post than have to remove it in post.

In the interest of space here, I won’t bombard you with images, but I suggest that you spend a few minutes looking through the Lens Image Gallery here for many more images.

Price and Market Positioning

The brief for the Otus lenses was simple: build the best lens possible at the focal length without engineering constraints on price or lens size. The Otus lenses have each had a gasp-worthy price, with the “cheapest” (1.4/55mm) at $4000 USD, the 85mm at $4500, and the newly announced 1.4/28mm at even more shocking $5000. These were clearly never intended to be volume sellers, but, much like high end “halo cars” for car manufacturers, they are showcases for engineering and technical excellence. The Otus lenses have each been benchmarks that others can aspire to. As for commercial success, the market demographic is mostly for discriminating professionals and/or well-heeled amateurs.

The Milvus line is different. Zeiss has distilled a good portion of the Otus excellence into a lens designed perhaps not for the masses but at least for the mainstream market. It is still a big, heavy, manual focus lens, but I think it is notable that its price at a hair under $1800 undercuts the Canon 85mm f/1.2L by a fair margin and is a good 2 ½ times cheaper than the Otus. In short, I suspect that the Milvus 85 is the volume player that will help Zeiss recoup some of the R&D costs that they sunk into the Otus lenses. I think there are a number of photographers that have lusted after the Otus 85 but couldn’t justify the expense that will take the plunge on the Milvus because they consider it an almost as good lens at a far more attainable price. I know I am certainly viewing it in that light!

Conclusion

By now you probably are familiar with the Zeiss conundrum. Amazing optics, beautiful lens designs, and the sense of a finely crafted precision instrument. But all of that goodness comes at a price, both in price (high) and weight (heavy), and, simply put, many photographers couldn’t be bothered with anything without autofocus. But chances are you already knew these things, and, if the price, size, and manual-focus-only function of the Milvus doesn’t put you off, then probably nothing else will. The Milvus 85mm is an exquisite optical instrument with a build that matches the amazing optics. Other than some vignette at wide apertures, there is nothing else to criticize here. The chromatic aberrations are near perfectly controlled, contrast is exquisite, distortion essentially non-existent, the bokeh is beautiful, and the resolution is extremely high. The single greatest challenge to the lens is that most modern cameras are not well suited to manual focus, but the use of a precision focus screen like the EG-S for my 6D helps immensely. The $1799 asking price of the lens is high when compared to the Sigma EX 85mm f/1.4, but the Milvus easily surpasses the Sigma in every metric. It undercuts the Canon 85mm f/1.2L by several hundred dollars while providing better optics and build. But probably the best argument for the Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4 is that it is 95% of the Otus 85mm f/1.4 at 42% of the price. If you have longed for Otus but found it out of reach, the Milvus will probably be the lower hanging fruit that you can grab and savor for many years to come.

Pros:

  • Optical performance only (marginally) bested by the Otus
  • Includes weather sealing
  • Gorgeous build quality and design
  • Great color rendering
  • Beautiful bokeh (better than Otus)
  • Almost no chromatic aberrations
  • Almost no distortion
  • Strong contrast
  • 95% of the Otus at 42% of the price
  • You might be able to afford it

Cons:

 

  • Very heavy lens – even slightly heavier than the Otus
  • Those with thick fingers may find little clearance between the lens and camera grip
  • Manual focus only
  • Fairly heavy vignette at wide apertures
  • Focus action/ergonomics not quite as good as the Otus
  • Relatively expensive

I want to thank Zeiss North America for loaning me this review sample.  There is a great staff there that I have enjoyed communicating with!

 

Gear Used:

Canon EOS 6D DSLR Camera (Body Only)
Zeiss Milvus Planar T* 1.4/85mm Lens
Super Precision Matte Eg-S Interchangeable Focusing Screen
Adobe Lightroom CC Software for Mac and Windows (Boxed Version)
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Zeiss Milvus Planar T* 1.4/85mm Image Gallery

Dustin Abbott

January 29th, 2016

Zeiss Milvus Planar T* 1.4/85mm Image Gallery

I’m always excited to spend time with a Zeiss lens.  I love the beautiful build, the great optics, and the more deliberate process of manually focusing the lenses.  Not everyone enjoys the manual focus process, but I like the analog, organic process when I have time to be more deliberate in my shooting.  I keep an EG-S precision focus screen in one of my 6D bodies specifically for use with MF lenses, and that inexpensive addition makes for a much easier shooting process.  I’ve even done some event shooting with MF lenses, and so long as you think about prefocusing in some situations, it is certainly possible.  The Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4 is a beautifully made lens that shares a lot of the Otus’ line DNA, but adds a trick of its own with fully weather sealed construction, a first for Zeiss lenses (at least in a Canon/Nikon sphere). Here’s a close look at the build and handling of the lens:

Here is a very careful look at the image quality, bokeh, and resolution of the lens:

Here is a video review of the lens that I know you’ll enjoy!

Here’s a link to my full real world review of the lens:  click here.

Images Taken with the Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4

Images of the Zeiss Milvus 85mm f/1.4:

Gear Used:

Canon EOS 6D DSLR Camera (Body Only)
Zeiss Milvus Planar T* 1.4/85mm Lens
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